# Honor level 40

Is it normal at Honor level forty for it to count backwards mine shows a negative number?
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• The stats are entirely unreliable, IMO. There's examples of this everywhere. I really give kudos to the guys creating stats sites, but....... how can we trust the stats?
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• the negative number you see is by how much you passed SMA rank, i dont think the on site stats page is updated to reflect the expanded honor rank in game. • If someone can point me to a semi-official calculation of how Honor Level is derived from Experience Points, we will add it to AAStats.com.

As far as stats being incorrect, we have a ticket in now with 5 known stats problems that we can develop reasonable work-arounds for if they aren't going to be addressed. Unfortunately, all of our numbers would only be for stats accumulated since June 1, 2018.
• edited May 2019
@[soldier]:
This formula seems to be true for the 40+ levels:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=527862627

At the end of the guide, we have this: XP formula for Levels 21-40: 600*(Lvl^2+(Lvl-20)^2). So each level needs increasingly more XP (but not exponentially more - if we want to be mathematically correct...).

Assuming that the level 21-40 formula is true for 41-100, we can calculate the XP needed for each level. If some very high level player could post their level here, we could check the theory - Arkeiro? (I can't see player levels at the profile pages, sorry)
If this is true, for level 100 you need 9840000 XP, 8.2 times more than you need for SMA.

I attached a plot, visualizing these numbers.

This formula gave the correct level for Arkeiro, so I'm 99.5% sure it is correct. I can send you the numbers in a table format, if you want.
Theory and reality are not that different. In theory.
• [soldier] wrote: »
If someone can point me to a semi-official calculation of how Honor Level is derived from Experience Points, we will add it to AAStats.com.

As far as stats being incorrect, we have a ticket in now with 5 known stats problems that we can develop reasonable work-arounds for if they aren't going to be addressed. Unfortunately, all of our numbers would only be for stats accumulated since June 1, 2018.

I would rather have a small database (limited from a date) but being reliable than the current one (where some people have to many kills, rounds played, hours played, etc).

Over 2k Golden Hawkeyes.
• edited May 2019
@[soldier]:
This formula seems to be true for the 40+ levels:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=527862627

At the end of the guide, we have this: XP formula for Levels 21-40: 600*(Lvl^2+(Lvl-20)^2). So each level needs increasingly more XP (but not exponentially more - if we want to be mathematically correct...).

Assuming that the level 21-40 formula is true for 41-100, we can calculate the XP needed for each level. If some very high level player could post their level here, we could check the theory - Arkeiro? (I can't see player levels at the profile pages, sorry)
If this is true, for level 100 you need 9840000 XP, 8.2 times more than you need for SMA.

I attached a plot, visualizing these numbers.

This formula gave the correct level for Arkeiro, so I'm 99.5% sure it is correct. I can send you the numbers in a table format, if you want.

This is great, thanks.

Am I correct that the only way to see a player's honor level is in-game?
• [soldier] wrote: »
@[soldier]:
This formula seems to be true for the 40+ levels:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=527862627

At the end of the guide, we have this: XP formula for Levels 21-40: 600*(Lvl^2+(Lvl-20)^2). So each level needs increasingly more XP (but not exponentially more - if we want to be mathematically correct...).

Assuming that the level 21-40 formula is true for 41-100, we can calculate the XP needed for each level. If some very high level player could post their level here, we could check the theory - Arkeiro? (I can't see player levels at the profile pages, sorry)
If this is true, for level 100 you need 9840000 XP, 8.2 times more than you need for SMA.

I attached a plot, visualizing these numbers.

This formula gave the correct level for Arkeiro, so I'm 99.5% sure it is correct. I can send you the numbers in a table format, if you want.

This is great, thanks.

Am I correct that the only way to see a player's honor level is in-game?

Correct

Over 2k Golden Hawkeyes.
• edited May 2019
[soldier] wrote: »
@[soldier]:
This formula seems to be true for the 40+ levels:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=527862627

At the end of the guide, we have this: XP formula for Levels 21-40: 600*(Lvl^2+(Lvl-20)^2). So each level needs increasingly more XP (but not exponentially more - if we want to be mathematically correct...).

Assuming that the level 21-40 formula is true for 41-100, we can calculate the XP needed for each level. If some very high level player could post their level here, we could check the theory - Arkeiro? (I can't see player levels at the profile pages, sorry)
If this is true, for level 100 you need 9840000 XP, 8.2 times more than you need for SMA.

I attached a plot, visualizing these numbers.

This formula gave the correct level for Arkeiro, so I'm 99.5% sure it is correct. I can send you the numbers in a table format, if you want.

This is great, thanks.

Am I correct that the only way to see a player's honor level is in-game?

Here are the exact numbers used for the plot. Take it with a pinch of salt, this is NOT some official info.

Keep going Arkeiro, you are 42% to level 100! Got to check if the numbers are correct... Theory and reality are not that different. In theory.
• edited May 2019
We have added Honor Level to the stats and I've spot checked a fair number of players against the table to make sure the formulas are working correctly. I will try to do some in-game sanity checking soon.

This is the player with the highest XP/Honor Level that we have recorded:  • Levels 1-20: 600 * Lvl^2
For levels 21-40 it is: 1200 * (Lvl^2 + (Lvl-20)^2)
Levels 41+ is 1,200,000+((Lvl-40)*75,000)
• Kartigan wrote: »
Levels 1-20: 600 * Lvl^2
For levels 21-40 it is: 1200 * (Lvl^2 + (Lvl-20)^2)
Levels 41+ is 1,200,000+((Lvl-40)*75,000)

Is this why It takes ages to level up? I'm level 23 but I probably would've been Prestige level 3-4 in COD when taking into consideration all the time I've put in.

Are there any rewards for reaching level 40? Like an aesthetic or something? • More 5 years and we might see a guy with level 100.

Over 2k Golden Hawkeyes.
• edited May 2019
Kartigan wrote: »
Levels 1-20: 600 * Lvl^2
For levels 21-40 it is: 1200 * (Lvl^2 + (Lvl-20)^2)
Levels 41+ is 1,200,000+((Lvl-40)*75,000)

Thanks for the update! I'll make the adjustments for 41+.

Edit:
The Level 21-40 formula doesn't match what is on the Steam Guide page:
600*(Lvl^2+(Lvl-20)^2)

Using the updated formula for 41-100 makes a huge difference:  • edited May 2019
That updated formula is wrong for pc for sure.

Emania is 70 something

Over 2k Golden Hawkeyes.
• That updated formula is wrong for pc for sure.

Emania is 70 something

Using the same formula for 41+ as for 21-40 he was coming up as a 75.
• [soldier] wrote: »
That updated formula is wrong for pc for sure.

Emania is 70 something

Using the same formula for 41+ as for 21-40 he was coming up as a 75.

im 67, wicked 68, water 69, not sure about others

Over 2k Golden Hawkeyes.
• edited June 2019
im 67, wicked 68, water 69, not sure about others

Thanks! Switching back to the previous method all 3 of those accounts match now:   • edited June 2019
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• OICURMT! wrote: »

I cannot find the honor level there... It says SMA/whatever, but the numerical value is not displayed.
Theory and reality are not that different. In theory.