How About Doing A Special Weapon ?

-=[INSF]=-ShOtGuN-SMC-=[INSF]=-ShOtGuN-SMC Posts: 10Player
edited November 2016 in General Discussion
Now i have been thinking on this for a while and im pretty sure people is or atleast admins is really irritaded on people changing accounts here and there doing 5-7 accounts ?

Now how about doing a special weapon that can only be used by a SMA or yes when he dies some new player can pick it up and can try it out and get a taste of using it so people know the weapon but only SMA rank will have it as weapon option?

so that people actually have a goal to reach , im not sure if i am thinking correct but in my mind this will make thousands of players to actually stop changing profiles and actually might even get hacking fools to think twice = better gamings for all and people will enjoy it more ,

Now back to the actual goal here what i mean is how hard is it for example to make an ( GOLD M4 ) in the game with maybe some white stripes so the weapon actually stands out even doing the sight cool so it is something everybody wanna have but to get it there is only one way and that is to actually reach the rank of ( SMA )

hard working and thousands of hours and time in the game should give something special and with this special weapon you will have players to work hard and all will actually really try to get his item and their account will be more of honor then just an account,

trust me if this is possible it might change the meaning of the game,

it does not need to be an M4 i just took it as choice since we seen all types of skins on it how hard can it be to create a special SMA skin?
Maybe American Flag on the m4 can it be so hard i dont know,
But this is something worth working on though as i said i think this will change alot of peoples minds and they will actually have a goal.

in my heart i hope one DEV see this and really think about it because this is something that might change the game for everyone and people will actually not just logg in to talk trash they will try get this goal completed :)

Thanks for reading this and i hope i have any chance to get this idea to the real deal !

Take care all and keep gaming

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  • SSKnecaboSSKnecabo Posts: 2,721Player
    Is a weapon skin really any motivating to reach max rank? I get the thought process but to me a skin isn't really appealing at all. Anyway, never understood why people care so much about multiple accounts.
  • -=[INSF]=-ShOtGuN-SMC-=[INSF]=-ShOtGuN-SMC Posts: 10Player
    edited November 2016
    Exactly i never knew why people are doing this with multiple accounts and as i said it does not need to be an m4 ?
    it can be a new weapon that only SMA rank will have as an option it can be M4 with grenade launcher making it easier for just that team to succeed and win the match and also then the gaming will take an new turn hehe there will actual be a meaning with reaching the level of SMA ?

    Maybe a completely new weapon in the game like an AK-47 gold or something special that will actually have an meaning for people to reach that goal,

    The idea i think is correct now well lets say the DEV like my idea then they can pick or do any weapon they feel to im just trying to make a change in this mather ,
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  • Dct.F|LeventeDct.F|Levente Posts: 624Player
    Exactly i never knew why people are doing this with multiple accounts and as i said it does not need to be an m4 ?
    it can be a new weapon that only SMA rank will have as an option it can be M4 with grenade launcher making it easier for just that team to succeed and win the match and also then the gaming will take an new turn hehe there will actual be a meaning with reaching the level of SMA ?

    Maybe a completely new weapon in the game like an AK-47 gold or something special that will actually have an meaning for people to reach that goal,

    The idea i think is correct now well lets say the DEV like my idea then they can pick or do any weapon they feel to im just trying to make a change in this mather ,

    That's a terrible idea in my opinion. AA never really had a progression based unlock system and this is part of the reason I like the game (and probably many others feel the same). You won't be killed because of the other guy had some weapon your team doesn't have access to, because you didn't spend literally thousands of hours into the game.
    For a couple of minutes it'd be fun for the SMA, but think about the receiving end. It would scare a lot of players away.

    If SMA meant anything beyond a symbol in front of your name it would be very annoying for the vast majority of the players as SMA requires a LOT of time to get.
    Theory and reality are not that different. In theory.
  • Twitchr.Carbon8Twitchr.Carbon8 Posts: 337Player
    I'm typically against skins, and I probably would never use it. Buuuttt it does motivate a ton of player. Just think about all the CS people that will play tons just to go up in their competitive "rank". Young people like constant praise, even if it doesn't mean anything.
  • Weapons with an GL for these maps, no thanks.. Most of them are CQB using a GL will cause massive TK's over the place. You might say well a player with SMA is a good player but that just isn't, rank in games just mean they played a lot nothing more.

    To motivate people to become SMA i would give them 2 nades and 3 smokes/flashes and unlocking the acog scope for the M4, maybe a different uniform with the AT-FG camo or at least something that isn't in the game yet and also for all the weapons so you can match it with the uniform. You will motivate most of the players that are playing for unlocking everything.
  • =IK=Doba==IK=Doba= Posts: 2,789Player
    Problem is there is nothing keeping my interest to even get to SMA.. and no special gun or skin will do that.. game needs to find skill based accomplishments not time based.
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  • SSKnecaboSSKnecabo Posts: 2,721Player
    Devs have clearly stated that they want a level playing field regarding weapons so besides the skin idea I don't see any of this happening. And let's be honest here, there have been enough complaints about good players pub-stomping newbies, no need to make it even worse for them.

    BTW: What I meant with not understanding the multiple account thingy is that I don't understand why it matters to others. Let those people have their accounts, who cares? Sometimes I just want to play on my own and not respond to others as well without being rude.
  • that was an good idea about doing maybe a uniform or some weapon skin to M4 with special sight , i thinking for all players im not thinking in my own opinion if i said what i think this is just one of tons of things i would have liked to be done :)

    for my self i feel like there is no reason to even play and getting the skins was one thing i liked then now there is no mission about it so i understand why people maybe do 4-5 accounts and this is something we need to change it is just so ,
    for a player to come in here and say that the game is good as it is and need no changes and skins does not mather = player has no idea what game feeling is,
    you are completely right no grenade launcher but something special for reaching the rank is very important so players keeps playing on one account to reach their goal,

    what do it mean to have thousands of hours in the game and get nothing for being an outstanding gamer to the game ?

    i mean this will def change the meaning of the game thats it,

    now we together need to give DEVS ideas about what to do i did not even think about uniform thats an great idea and to that uniform the soldier can only have one weapon it is M4 with special skin and sight= one complete uniform and weapon meant only for SMA soldiers and ofcourse nothing else should be done same power and so on, Only thing changed is the skin and uniform and sight,


    SOMETHING for putting hours in the game is needed trust me it will be something all will like.
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  • on my server there is no one using any kind of abuse or they get banned this with higher ranked persons fooling around on new players is a responsibility to EACH and EVERY admin or owner to put them in the right place,

    A REAL gamer and REAL high ranked person SHOWS respect and shows people how things are done , they not abusing new players thats all i have to say about that ,

    if they do they are a loser and will be banned, Period.

    at least in my servers.
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  • I wouldnt think more/unique skins would neither draw people in nor would they care about getting a high rank. I remember when honor meant alot more back in AA2. But even then it kind of was irrelevant. New accounts don't bother me unless you are suspiciously alot better under a new account.

    I also have an issue with wanting to make flashier skins. This is not a cookie cutter for CSGO or COD. We are not playing to become the flashiest looking player, it was originally a recruiting tool meaning more realistic than your average shooter without becoming a MILSIM. With that being said I would also have major drawbacks about giving players more advanced/powerful weapons as a reward. Most of us with some rank are already outplaying true low levels and this would further that gap making it a griefing session for low levels and taking some of the fun and excitement out for the capped players.

    Although the game needs work I do not think adding play to win functions would create any positive outcome to what makes this game appealing to those who do play. Everybody should get the same equipment and keep aesthetics realistic, this keeps the playing field the same for all players and focuses on the gameplay rather than worrying about upgrade some guy who plays too much had.
  • SacchoSaccho Posts: 1,577Player
    SSKnecabo wrote: »
    Devs have clearly stated that they want a level playing field regarding weapons so besides the skin idea I don't see any of this happening. And let's be honest here, there have been enough complaints about good players pub-stomping newbies, no need to make it even worse for them.

    BTW: What I meant with not understanding the multiple account thingy is that I don't understand why it matters to others. Let those people have their accounts, who cares? Sometimes I just want to play on my own and not respond to others as well without being rude.
    Fully agree on all points.

    SMA rank is 1000 hours at 20 XP/minute -- the absolute fastest-scoring players. Look at Doba, or Necabo, both strong players, and it would take them ~1400 hours.

    People putting nearly 1000 hours into a game don't need to be given more motivation to play. They're already hooked.

    2/3 of AAPG players quit before getting to 1 hour of playtime. Dangling something that's 999+ hours away as a prize is going to do literally nothing to make them stay around longer.

    The prize for SMA rank is already getting to have the ultimate rank badge. Adding a skin or something cosmetic? Sure, go for it, I just don't think it's going to have the effect you want. Adding some rank-exclusive weapon or perk? No way.
  • {4F}DeadlyGrouse{4F}DeadlyGrouse Posts: 277Player
    ^^ whs a skin is not going to make me magically want to keep playing this game. tbh I've been taking a break and like doba said there isn't anything to play for. basically all those points you listed wouldn't exist if we had skill based ranking system and matchmaking. You would still get smurfs but I think more players would come play the game for matchmaking than for a skin.
  • -=[INSF]=-ShOtGuN-SMC-=[INSF]=-ShOtGuN-SMC Posts: 10Player
    edited December 2016
    This game is based on time right up and down i think the game is based from the real army,
    The more skills you have will not give you any special?

    if you join the army and have extrem super sighting skills you shot fast as never before maybe you run like 10 lions ?
    Still you got to do the time to earn the honor and the rank that you achieve step by step,


    since the game probably is based on that and not -- Cs.Go i think there will be no skill matching and thats good in my opinion,
    Now back to the real thing people with extrem good skills think they deserve more and faster but i am to a hundred procent behind the DEVS on that this game is now perfect in many many ways it just need some few refreshments ,

    i mean yeah you can have played games for 18 years and be a super hero gamer i still like that there is no way you pass the line, you come to a new game and you got to do the time for the glory thats it and i actually love that,

    im not saying i am good or better or anything but i have done over 3.000 hours on the game and trying to keep it up so i think i know also what i am talking about from my view and all players are not ProGamers just go in to destroy and show off?
    Many players are actually in for this social life and we have seen players get together we have an social network people actually helps out and they pay servers together and it is like an little family and during this time people grow some maybe actually join the army and some just keep playing the game and have the enjoy together , in some cases people are friends for years after years,

    in my thinking i am actually counting on all this things around the game,
    before i just think for the gaming and i am really happy that Americas Army did this game so people can communicate and get the social life.


    I do not think they will do this any way , but i just wanted to have this said and i hope every one still can enjoy the game and have fun that's the main thing here as long as everybody has fun its perfect ;)

    Cheers,






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  • =IK=Doba==IK=Doba= Posts: 2,789Player
    Actually the army rewards with medals, just as I described on my ranking thread not only does it give skilled players something to play for but also follows the army code for players such as yourself who rather hold the game back because it's not the army way.... Psss, AA isn't an army sim!

    Have fun with who? The 600 players online? Sick!!




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  • -pR|Arkeiro-pR|Arkeiro Posts: 775Player
    Saccho wrote: »
    SSKnecabo wrote: »
    Devs have clearly stated that they want a level playing field regarding weapons so besides the skin idea I don't see any of this happening. And let's be honest here, there have been enough complaints about good players pub-stomping newbies, no need to make it even worse for them.

    BTW: What I meant with not understanding the multiple account thingy is that I don't understand why it matters to others. Let those people have their accounts, who cares? Sometimes I just want to play on my own and not respond to others as well without being rude.
    Fully agree on all points.

    SMA rank is 1000 hours at 20 XP/minute -- the absolute fastest-scoring players. Look at Doba, or Necabo, both strong players, and it would take them ~1400 hours.

    People putting nearly 1000 hours into a game don't need to be given more motivation to play. They're already hooked.

    2/3 of AAPG players quit before getting to 1 hour of playtime. Dangling something that's 999+ hours away as a prize is going to do literally nothing to make them stay around longer.

    The prize for SMA rank is already getting to have the ultimate rank badge. Adding a skin or something cosmetic? Sure, go for it, I just don't think it's going to have the effect you want. Adding some rank-exclusive weapon or perk? No way.

    I was having 25 score/min until the database bug, even still its a [TOS Violation] long grind for sma. It was fun to be one of the first to achieve it but after that I would rather have a skilled base ladder than an xp one.
    And I also agree giving extra rewards to people playing 1k+ hours wont make them play those hours.

    Over 2k Golden Hawkeyes.
  • ~Gorilla~~Gorilla~ Posts: 793Administrator
    I agree with Lavente. There is no need to push a special reward because you made SMA.
  • iNv|roKis-iNv|roKis- Posts: 420Player
    edited December 2016
    I have multiple accounts, mostly because I get banned from the private servers because they feel like not competing against, other than that there is no drive for me to get to SMA anytime soon. Also got 2k hours on this game on primary account steam since open beta. Unless you're unlocking more powerful weapons like warface, but that's silly in AAPG or maybe not. It sure may bring players.

    EDIT: why are you irritated about multiple accounts? Why is it such a bother? Maybe gotta ask that question first.
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  • -=DA=-Movax-=DA=-Movax Posts: 42Player
    Ironically, most players that would post here have been, or would be quickly banned from INSF if they played there.
  • -[U|S|A]-DannyBoy-[U|S|A]-DannyBoy Posts: 376Beta Tester
    Saccho wrote: »

    BTW: What I meant with not understanding the multiple account thingy is that I don't understand why it matters to others. Let those people have their accounts, who cares? Sometimes I just want to play on my own and not respond to others as well without being rude.
    Fully agree on all points.

    SMA rank is 1000 hours at 20 XP/minute -- the absolute fastest-scoring players. Look at Doba, or Necabo, both strong players, and it would take them ~1400 hours.

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    Lets see, I have a little over 3000 hours in and I finally made SFC, hmm according to your calculations I need a few more years and hundred thousand hours hahahahah !!!
    Or maybe learn to shoot straight?? Yeah I go with that!!

    As for the people making many multiple accounts, I am not sure I agree they do it for a reason to rank up again, I think most, not all (I wont stereo type lol) make new accounts because 1, they are just very very good players and keep getting kicked/banned for being thought of as a hacker.. And, 2, because they are a hacker and are trying to hide their identity long enough to keep eating cheese!! My opinion anyway!!
    One day I will graduate noob school!!!
    -[U|S|A]-DannyBoy!!


  • -[U|S|A]-DannyBoy-[U|S|A]-DannyBoy Posts: 376Beta Tester
    LOL I messed up the quote thingy must need more coffee
    One day I will graduate noob school!!!
    -[U|S|A]-DannyBoy!!


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