What Would You Do?
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So I was in a private server last night,
A few people I have played with in the past were also there, Boom! one person shows up and the other team, who has losing slightly , suddenly started winning.
One of what i consider a very good player on my team, leaves, suspects the new person who joins to be a "cheater".... at first i doubt him.... the person who is accused has been playing less than 2-3 rounds and already is like 20-5, now..... as I myself have done this before, I dont pay much attention to it. I think to myself "hes having a good game" and im having a bad night, which to be honest I was playing like [TOS Violation].
My friend or associate rages, and leaves, due to the fact that he thinks the other team has a cheater, again I ignore it. The person who leaves is a decent player I would say as good as me or better, and was at the top or the leader board, with a decent score as well.
I keep playing, although at first I didn't have too much suspicion of the other player, I challenge him in Global and start talking smack. The first thing i notice is his confidence, "you wont kill me" he says. I realize later that this was not confidence but indeed arrogance.
To test my theory of his shots "feeling weird" or "fishy" I decide to hide in a corner. Being the "last man standing" I "hear" a few players run right by me, looking for the enemy, but this person stops. He waits, and indeed as soon as I walk out of my hidden spot, he pistol head shots me in the FACE. I call him names and such and rage from the server.
Now as I have no real proof, I am at a lost on what to do.
What should I do?
A few people I have played with in the past were also there, Boom! one person shows up and the other team, who has losing slightly , suddenly started winning.
One of what i consider a very good player on my team, leaves, suspects the new person who joins to be a "cheater".... at first i doubt him.... the person who is accused has been playing less than 2-3 rounds and already is like 20-5, now..... as I myself have done this before, I dont pay much attention to it. I think to myself "hes having a good game" and im having a bad night, which to be honest I was playing like [TOS Violation].
My friend or associate rages, and leaves, due to the fact that he thinks the other team has a cheater, again I ignore it. The person who leaves is a decent player I would say as good as me or better, and was at the top or the leader board, with a decent score as well.
I keep playing, although at first I didn't have too much suspicion of the other player, I challenge him in Global and start talking smack. The first thing i notice is his confidence, "you wont kill me" he says. I realize later that this was not confidence but indeed arrogance.
To test my theory of his shots "feeling weird" or "fishy" I decide to hide in a corner. Being the "last man standing" I "hear" a few players run right by me, looking for the enemy, but this person stops. He waits, and indeed as soon as I walk out of my hidden spot, he pistol head shots me in the FACE. I call him names and such and rage from the server.
Now as I have no real proof, I am at a lost on what to do.
What should I do?
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I love this community!
Maybe he had looked everywhere and decided to just stop where you was hiding pure luck.
Then you moved so you give your position away and he shot you.
"do unto others as you would have them do unto you"
I love this community!
Other than that, without any proof, you don't have much to stand on. If you were to play on our server (Gun Runner =GunR=), we have demorec on at all times and we can go back and look at any player that has played on our server.
Not trying to discredit you or anything, in fact I don't even know you but this is pretty much what every server admin will say. It really depends on what each individual considers "very obvious". I've seen and experienced a lot of unjustified bans on many servers run by well respected server admins.
I love this community!
#Support Comp Mode
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCN4YhM6jUB2MxVj8i3b9rhw
And show me on this doll where he shot you.
I know i have nothing to stand on, so I shall shallow my pride and let it go i guess.
I guess some players are that much better than me.
it was really eating me inside, i RAGED so hard, but i guess thats what people feel when i pistol headshot them or 180 slide headshot lol
"do unto others as you would have them do unto you" thx for this
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If it isn't very obvious, it's difficult to determine if a player on the opposite team is cheating or not, you have to spectate him.
It's now banned after the
latest update.
It's just the best, for stress relief and a return to calm.
Though it's very, very appreciable how much effort guys like you do to keep a clean game, I also have to agree with SSKnecabo.
As a former hardcore-gamer, I experienced unjustified bans far too much myself because "obvious reasons" that are non existent. I got banned on multiple thousands of servers in css. I used to play cs 1.5 on professional niveau (sadly I was too young to sign a contract) and..ye, I think you see where I'm going.
I got banned because "I'm using aimbot" as I was purely running around with pumpgun (to anyone who has just a little bit of a brain, it should be more than obvious so an aimbot with a pumpgun would be a huge disadvantage because you have to aim on his upper chest...not on his head), just to mention one example, and there are plenty..sadly.
I really do appreciate anyone who does his best to keep a clean game! But "obvious reasons" are subjective and not objective, and it get's even worse if admins can't handle their own emotions/ego's (I'm not talking about you, I don't know you, it's just a statement, please don't take it personal :-) ).
@ ^Bunny_Hopper^
I do understand your frustration, no one likes to loose because of cheaters (if it's true or not doesn't matter in this point). I could say "keep calm" or "don't give up" or what ever..but that should be obvious IMHO.
Just one thing: If you think someone is cheating, go spectate mode. Don't write anything because bots/hacks can be turned off on the fly. If possible record the game (and if you have to use Fraps or similar tools, that's fine! Better than doing nothing.) and send a copy to the clan who's running the server + post it in the official forum. Best thing to get rid of a cheater is by letting multiple people judge it (though it won't help always as my example clearly states out). Worst thing that can happen is so you make some people upset, who cares unless you repetitively claim people to be cheating while they're not. I think, most of the worthy players will be happy to have every cheater as possible banned, so one or two guys being upset is not fortunate, but it's no world collapse either. And maybe you do learn something while doing so because you get explanations how it's possible to do what you've recorded without cheating. In this sense: Please, be 100% sure he's cheating before you post any videos or similar somewhere ;-)
-SD-Delton I appreciate your explanation :-)
Sincerely
Edit: Just noticed so there are people in this forum with "Beta-Tester" tag...why do I not have one I was playing this game in Beta too haha, I must be looking like a newbird here
Casual games are meant to be fun.
Competitive games are meant to be hardcore difficult.
2 distinct differences, please stop mixing them up <|¦¬)
Good post. Here's the few things you got wrong
Posting videos of suspicious people in here is not allowed regardless of how objective you approach it. Not sure if it was allowed if you removed all the names etc. but noone wants to put that much effort into it. What you can do is report those people here: https://www.americasarmy.com/support/abuse
Adding a recording if it's super obvious won't hurt as well I guess.
The Beta-Tester tag is for people actively testing the closed beta, what you played back then was the open beta. If you want that tag and want to help improving the game you'll have to do a lot of good bug reports and you might get approached by them.
I love this community!
That's..kinda weird? But no problem ofc. Thx for telling me SSKnecabo.
I guess I'm too old, used to old stuff :-)
Ah ye closed beta, I see. Well it's not really important to have that tag, I was curious and it more was like a joke. And I hope there aren't that many bugs left (or upcoming) to report to have "a lot of good bug reports" ;-)
Casual games are meant to be fun.
Competitive games are meant to be hardcore difficult.
2 distinct differences, please stop mixing them up <|¦¬)
If someone is smoking you and they make you rage, the best solution is to just go play elsewhere. It's just a game, after all. I play games to relax, not to raise the blood pressure.
QFT