What if some players are using Spectator to ghost?

[Nomad] · February 2016

Was playing with a friend on the same team, and I became a Spectator. I could see everyone on the map, through walls, etc. Now what if some players are ghosting using this feature? I could easily let my friend know the enemy positions via TS or Skype?

Crushmaster · February 2016

Some may be. Nothing we can do about it unless we have proof that they're pulling off impossible stuff.

iNv|revert- · February 2016

Just hope your playing with people with integrity. Its usually fairly easy to tell if someone is ghosting though

=IK=Doba= · February 2016

Revert ghosts in matches

K!Dz.applePIE · February 2016

well ghosting with friends is bad enough but there are other lovely ppl out there who actually make another smurf account run it on another pc or laptop and ghost per spectate..
thanks to TGF we caught one recently.. visit our forums to laugh a little

`xinoN · February 2016

I think this "issue" is older than the FPS genre itself. It's either that or have no spect mode at all. I prefer spect mode.

SL_zOmbi · February 2016

Back to AA2 ghosting was a big problem...
solved since the kiddies swaped to cod4 :P

.dcG-Colts^ · February 2016

=IK=Doba= wrote: »

Revert ghosts in matches

Who is revert? Revert is a ghost.

IO_i_OI · February 2016

I've caught some clans members who have ghosted in TS but almost all of the time it was unintentional and their clan mates would immediately let them know about it. Players in game do it all the time accidentally because they forget they are dead. So it is common to forget your status. Unfortunately, anyone can get on a TS channel and ghost intentionally all day long. This problem will never be resolved. At least we get to see the Spectators.

SSKnecabo · February 2016

IO_i_OI wrote: »

I've caught some clans members who have ghosted in TS but almost all of the time it was unintentional and their clan mates would immediately let them know about it. Players in game do it all the time accidentally because they forget they are dead. So it is common to forget your status. Unfortunately, anyone can get on a TS channel and ghost intentionally all day long. This problem will never be resolved. At least we get to see the Spectators.

I don't think you quite understand the term ghosting, at least not how it's commonly used for online gaming.

Crushmaster · February 2016

SSKnecabo wrote: »

IO_i_OI wrote: »

I've caught some clans members who have ghosted in TS but almost all of the time it was unintentional and their clan mates would immediately let them know about it. Players in game do it all the time accidentally because they forget they are dead. So it is common to forget your status. Unfortunately, anyone can get on a TS channel and ghost intentionally all day long. This problem will never be resolved. At least we get to see the Spectators.

I don't think you quite understand the term ghosting, at least not how it's commonly used for online gaming.

It's a milder form, to be sure, but it's still unfair in pub gameplay.

SSKnecabo · February 2016

.p[i]-Crushmaster wrote: »

SSKnecabo wrote: »

IO_i_OI wrote: »

I've caught some clans members who have ghosted in TS but almost all of the time it was unintentional and their clan mates would immediately let them know about it. Players in game do it all the time accidentally because they forget they are dead. So it is common to forget your status. Unfortunately, anyone can get on a TS channel and ghost intentionally all day long. This problem will never be resolved. At least we get to see the Spectators.

I don't think you quite understand the term ghosting, at least not how it's commonly used for online gaming.

It's a milder form, to be sure, but it's still unfair in pub gameplay.

Yes, black screens please.

Root-Access · February 2016

I thought I knew what ghosting was, but to be sure, what is it exactly? Teammates reporting your position to their friends/clanmates on the opposite team, right?

frankof · February 2016

Root-Access wrote: »

I thought I knew what ghosting was, but to be sure, what is it exactly? Teammates reporting your position to their friends/clanmates on the opposite team, right?

Right.
Can also be dead players on your own team helping you.

First one is down right cheating, other is engagement

Koden · February 2016

Free map see through roaming while in spectator mode should be disabled at least. That's a minor thing for that matter anyway.

SSKnecabo · February 2016

Ghosting is commonly used for people sitting in spectator calling positions, being dead and calling positions isn't really considered ghosting. Good old topic of people needing excuses for getting owned.

[ENG]Uni-Sol · February 2016

A ghost..

Because at this point I think we need to see one.

4DChessGenius · February 2016

Ghosting will always exist to an extent in any round based game. It's part of the territory.

[XIII]Benediction · February 2016

I've seen clans use ghosting to speed up the ending of matches so that they can get into a full server sooner.

I know this happens because a mediocre player will, mid-game, rise to the best of their team (Rambo style) on the same round a clan member of that player becomes a spectator.

OK, sure correlation does not equal causation but... I've seen it happen so often in that exact same circumstance that it aren't just be a coincidence.

I think I have a solution for this, although I think some people would consider it an unfair/rough solution.

iNv|revert- · February 2016

Benediction wrote: »

I know this happens because a mediocre player will, mid-game, rise to the best of their team (Rambo style) on the same round a clan member of that player becomes a spectator.

You can't just assume their ghosting.. sometimes people do go on a hot streak.. you can't just automatically assume their ghosting..

I never ghost but almost instantly get accused a lot if I join a server and have to wait to get on a team when my team member is playing.. People are quick to accuse and make excuses rather then face the facts.
Not saying everyone accuses but still. Also not saying everyone is like me

[Nomad] · March 2016

SSKnecabo wrote: »

...Good old topic of people needing excuses for getting owned.

Honestly I don't get owned much. I'm not pro but I'm a good player and that's because I don't play a lot. And getting owned doesn't bother me at all

Anyways...
In Spectator Mode we should only be able to see our own team mates view, not the enemy players & thru walls. It would reduce the amount of ghost cheating. But obviously we can't stop people from joining opposite teams or have a second PC. But it's ok if that's how it's going to be. I was just wondering.

Your squad's been Lemonaded! - Get The Door! loved those doors :P

What if some players are using Spectator to ghost?

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