Question(s) to M16 users
SithHunter
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Firstly, let me ask you, do you use M16 in rifleman role (without ACOG)? I do, not sure why, I guess I always preferred M16 to M4 in games and especially AA2.
So, now if answered yes to above... How do you use burst fire? Do you find it more effective to hold your mouse for full 3 round burst and try to repeat those as quickly as possible or do you just tap your LMB very quickly letting 2 and 1 round bursts with very small intervals (that imitates full-auto kinda)?
I was trying to train and test both methods but I can't really decide.
So, now if answered yes to above... How do you use burst fire? Do you find it more effective to hold your mouse for full 3 round burst and try to repeat those as quickly as possible or do you just tap your LMB very quickly letting 2 and 1 round bursts with very small intervals (that imitates full-auto kinda)?
I was trying to train and test both methods but I can't really decide.
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I still aint got used to the whole.. hold mouse 1 to burst method, it just don't feel right to me, never has. It's one thing I'd hoped people would be begging the devs to change.
1 click, should fire off three rounds unless your on single fire.
Umm, I disagree, it all comes to practice in recoil control and that's why I think I'm starting to lean towards full 3 rounds burst- to have more consistent recoil.
I sense strong sarcasm ;p
Also, started practicing rapid 3-round burst firing on M16 and it seems like after few hours of practice it's gonna be easily doable (in comparison to those random quick-taps).
Range to target is 100m so in game it's gonna be way more accurate.
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in that video you're just spraying and hoping one of the bullets hits? there is no point to bursting 3 rounds at that range. if you are aiming, the 2nd and 3rd bullet will totally miss, because of recoil. if you just took your time and fired a single bullet you would have been able to drop those targets much faster. (but omg suppression op)
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at that range you should select single fire, control your breathing, and aim center mass (or in this game the head)
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but as i said. i wish the weapon's burst mode in game would use the traditional mechanic, just shoot 3 rounds with the tap of the mouse.
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an analogy for that would be like asking 2 people to walk a line to prove they are sober. person one just has to walk a line. the 2nd person has to perform juggling and hopscotch to prove he is sober...
That's what annoys me about it, the click hold, compensate, burst done.. release, click hold, compensate.. etc.. my last explanation was a little light on the actual details.. but this is why its preferable to me to just spam the button and suffer an inconstant firerate, that not only feels out of whack, it feels to me like a better way than having to hold, release, hold..
It's a preference thing, there are probably people who like it like that and have mastered it.
To answer you without sounding like I'm being sarcastic, I didn't mean it to be before.. I also slap an ACOG on it, I can also add that I never choose to use it if I'm stuck with having to choose a rifleman spot, I just take M4 or on the rare occasion a Shotgun.
I understand that but I felt like that analogy didn't really do justice to the current situation of M16 ;p But yeah I think it would be better to just have 1 click = 3 round burst mechanic.
Well you could always have a look at your mouse software and play with LMB settings but I wouldn't do that, would feel like cheating if I got this M16 to fire 3 rounds with one click.
+1
Overall I drop my targets in ~5 shots, usually with a headshot. I never aim below upper torso, I usually/ideally go for a 2 bullet tap at the start, aiming for the neck-chin area with the first bullet, then the second goes right between the eyes.
With the M4 I always needed a second weapon in 12v12, but usually I have enough ammo in my M16 for the whole round.
+1. At the very minimum give the players a choice.
I enjoy clicking it and shooting 1-2 shots. After muscle memory takes over and you don't even think about how long you "hold" it down for and it'll seem almost auto [but slower than the m4].
Also I only use the m16 for longer range maps [it does more damage at further ranges] and in close quaters the m4 because it shoots faster [in my opinion] like I said.
Edit: I hope they do not remove the option to shoot small quick burst, I prefer that.
If you put some time in it, the M16 will be clearly the successor of the M4. (At least in my experience.) It deals more damage over range, it has less recoil, it's more accurate, better ammo management etc. The only place, where the M4 beats it is close range. I believe this odd burst fire has to do with that, especially with the recoil. I'd be very-very sad if they'd change the burst on it. Just put 3-5 days in the M16 and you will feel the difference as well.