Learn to read, 5008 x 2880 is what i'm playing at and yes does every bit of 5k.. time for you to visit the Hard forums and read up on SONY and DSR.
What did you do with yours? did it break? I've got a large collection of parts and 8 fly backs all new if needed. Would also be interested in purchasing it, in the states.
already sold it last decade due to space problems on my desk and switching to double monitor setup.. but the native resolution of that monitor is not 5K to start with so please do elaborate how you reach a 5K resolution on that monitor?
DSR only renders the image on higher resolution but down samples it to your monitors max (or lower than max) resolution.
So you are not really playing @ 5K but probably getting a slightly better image quality (not more pixels)
also what GPU are you running to render the game @5K and down-sample again without having fps problems with the not optimized engine like UE3
Using Msi twin frozen OC 580 in SLI... and yes with DSR set, can even have a desktop at 5k. Do you even have a Nivida card? Ahh the FW900 monitor came out in 2003 - 2005? if you sold it then would have been 5 grand they still fetch 500 to 1,000 now decade old.
Go into settings set your DSR 4.x with 0% smoothness, windows settings pick the higher resolution and walla you now have a new super resolution monitor.
FYI Google doesn't replace actual knowledge. Test it yourself. DSR Dynamic Super Resolution, Hmmm why did they name it that?
FYI unreal is more bound to CPU cycles ( my CPU is 5hz ) than GPU.. stick with me Apple you might learn something. :*
Using Msi twin frozen OC 580 in SLI... and yes with DSR set, can even have a desktop at 5k. Do you even have a Nivida card?
Go into settings set your DSR 4.x with 0% smoothness, windows settings pick the higher resolution and walla you have a new super resolution monitor.
FYI Google doesn't replace actual knowledge. Test it yourself. DSR Dynamic Super Resolution Hmmm why did they name it that?
lol there is a huge difference between forcing a montior to scale up to 5k and actually having a monitor with a 5k resolution. If you are using DSR you don't actually have a 5k monitor then.
Using Msi twin frozen OC 580 in SLI... and yes with DSR set, can even have a desktop at 5k. Do you even have a Nivida card? Ahh the FW900 monitor came out in 2003 - 2005? if you sold it then would have been 5 grand they still fetch 500 to 1,000 now decade old.
Go into settings set your DSR 4.x with 0% smoothness, windows settings pick the higher resolution and walla you now have a new super resolution monitor.
FYI Google doesn't replace actual knowledge. Test it yourself. DSR Dynamic Super Resolution, Hmmm why did they name it that?
FYI unreal is more bound to CPU cycles ( my CPU is 5hz ) than GPU.. stick with me Apple you might learn something. :*
Sorry dude, but unfortunately you have no idea what DSR does.. at no point of time you have the pixel numbers of 5K shown on your monitor as this is factually not possible.. Maybe you should google yourself a bit more.
Also I did sell my monitor last decade.. and last decade means the years between 2000-2010.. maybe this explains why you are confused about the pixel numbers since you lack the ability to deduct numbers in tens.
Finally 5K over an analog connection (yes that would be the VGA input of FW900) would most likely neutralize the the quality in picture you might get via DSR by down-sampling from 5K.
Also please do elaborate how you get your SLI system to output the SLI rendered video signal through the VGA output of your NVIDIA card?
and back to your question : yes I do own an nvidia card.
Using Msi twin frozen OC 580 in SLI... and yes with DSR set, can even have a desktop at 5k. Do you even have a Nivida card? Ahh the FW900 monitor came out in 2003 - 2005? if you sold it then would have been 5 grand they still fetch 500 to 1,000 now decade old.
Also I did sell my monitor last decade.. and last decade means the years between 2000-2010.. maybe this explains why you are confused about the pixel numbers since you lack the ability to deduct numbers in tens.
Finally 5K over an analog connection (yes that would be the VGA input of FW900) would most likely neutralize the the quality in picture you might get via DSR by down-sampling from 5K.
Ahh fully understand pixels, screen real estate is part of my profession.. did you try it with your desktop? it's uncanny awesome to have 4 1080 widows running and code window. Give it a try double your desktop... the text is still sharp.
DSR is amazing...
Ahhhmmm Sony FW900 uses BNC connectors.. you did own one? you spent 3,500 Minimum on a monitor in 2005 dollars? don't even know it's primary connection?
Pixels on a CRT do you know how a CRT works? Light beam lines my friend, light beam lines... no cross hatch screen squares like flat panels.. But even on my acer 120hz the 1080 double of pixels still looks beautiful DSR is truly amazing Tech, don't be jelly cause I know how to run it.
All in good fun apple... think your views on marketing are spot on.. I like to volley back and forth and your writing is great.. but wrong on DSR & Sonys One thing we do agree on is AA:PG is one great game Love your passion for it.
You are a funny guy bam, you throw around with half baked information but the way you present those claims still make no sense.
Let's go over some:
1- FW900 has both VGA and bnc connectors. But the main connector for computer output is and was always VGA as there were no graphics cards with bnc output ever. There were dedicated video cards for digitilizing cam material with bnc though.
2- there is no Nvidia gaming card that supports bnc, bnc is a broadcast norm which is used mostly by professional cameras or studio equipment like video mixers
3- the bnc Sony uses on that monitor is 2 decades old and is streaming video signals over multiple bnc cables, which is not even supported by current generation broadcast equipment
4- crt monitors are also bound by the laws of physics and can only output the resolution they were designed for. you can not have magical new electrons produced from dotpitch, which is responsible for max resolution of the given monitor
5- max resolution of FW900 is 2304 x 1440 which is not 5K and not even 4K
6- dsr only renders higher than max resolution of a monitor but downsamples it. It does not magically output higher resolutions on low resolution monitors.
7- finally if your crt was capable of outputting any resolution, why the [TOS Violation] are you using dsr? You wouldn't need it with any gpu that can output 4K or 5K
You know maybe you should revisit your beliefs and faith because somethings can actually be explained with science and facts. Then individual opinion does not really play a role.
Like in game. When 5 of your team mates are at extraction and all telling you to run the flag from choke, you really do not have to crawl around and peak every corner in lower gallery. Specially not when 10 seconds left on the clock. But I like your enthusiasm
You're really kinda a harassing person.. on things you know nothing about. You never owned one ( FW900 ).. or even tried the settings on your own set-up, starting to think you don't even own a card capable of DSR.
And WIKI or Google is not your friend. Here is the answer to all your bullet points. Number 4 will blow your mind.
1. BNC TO DVI cable
2. See Above
3. Again production run 2003 to 2005 - you never owned one.. or you would be factual with your input. Do you have cable TV? go over to the wall... what a BNC connector coming out... say it isn't so Copper BNC is still the go to product for Video push / pull tech.. wow true 75 Ω performance, BNC Male Connectors are suited for network routing and switching, digital A/V cards, mobile broadcast, broadcast cameras, and studio integration applications.
4. You can set any resolution you want, at any refresh rate, as long as you don't exceed the 400MHZ bandwith limit for the signal on a FW900. Dot pitch measurement does not apply to aperture grille displays. Such monitors use continuous vertical phosphors band on the screen, so the vertical distance between scan lines is limited only by video input signal's vertical resolution. Google that.
5. Again Wiki is not your friend.. If you really paid the 3,500 dollars in 2005 you would have been all over anandtech.com or hardforum.com learning what the SONY beast could do.
6. Again try it for yourself effect is effect.. magic pixel creation is what you brought the table, not me. .. then come pick up your humble pie.
7. Again did you try?.. set DSR to 4.x fire up any game. pick the higher resolution and be amazed.. in AA you may need to console and use command Set RES 3840 x 2160 used my 16:9 to help you out. You seem like a picture book kinda guy.
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You know maybe you should revisit your beliefs and faith because somethings can actually be explained with science and facts. Then individual opinion does not really play a role.
Are describing yourself above is this a self confession?
And that last stuff? We have never played together that I've noticed unless you use a different name in game? :grey_question:
Please go into your settings and try before you regurgitate your last few posts with the same limited rhetoric of knowledge, maybe even refine your google search for a rebuttal, upon doing so will bring you wisdom " hint Google this Sony FW900 3840x2400 " go from there.. or visit any number of fan sites.
You have been weighed & measured and found lacking. :pensive:
You're really kinda a harassing person.. on things you know nothing about. You never owned one ( FW900 ).. or even tried the settings on your own set-up, starting to think you don't even own a card capable of DSR.
And WIKI or Google is not your friend. Here is the answer to all your bullet points. Number 4 will blow your mind.
1. BNC TO DVI cable
2. See Above
3. Again production run 2003 to 2005 - you never owned one.. or you would be factual with your input.
4. You can set any resolution you want, at any refresh rate, as long as you don't exceed the 400MHZ bandwith limit for the signal on a FW900. Dot pitch measurement does not apply to aperture grille displays. Such monitors use continuous vertical phosphors band on the screen, so the vertical distance between scan lines is limited only by video input signal's vertical resolution. Google that.
5. Again Wiki is not your friend.. If you really paid the 3,500 dollars in 2005 you would have been all over anandtech.com or hardforum.com learning what the SONY beast could do.
6. Again try it for yourself effect is effect.. magic pixel creation is what you brought the table, not me. .. then come pick up your humble pie.
7. Again did you try?.. set DSR to 4.x fire up any game. pick the higher resolution and be amazed.. in AA you may need to console and use command Set RES 3840 x 2160 used my 16:9 to help you out. You seem like a picture book kinda guy.
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You know maybe you should revisit your beliefs and faith because somethings can actually be explained with science and facts. Then individual opinion does not really play a role.
Are describing yourself above is this a self confession?
And that last stuff? We have never played together that I've noticed unless you use a different name in game? :grey_question:
Please go into your settings and try before you regurgitate your last few posts with the same limited rhetoric of knowledge, maybe even refine your google search for a rebuttal, upon doing so will bring you wisdom " hint Google this Sony FW900 3840x2400 " go from there.. or visit any number of fan sites.
You have been weighed & measured and found lacking. :pensive:
Ohh I see I am the harassing guy when I talk with facts and not like you "magical army way 1980"?
Now you also know if I owned one or not.. yet when I say I sold it last decade it means I sold mine before 2010 (factually in 2008) but I am sure you know better since you are the Sherlock of AA.
Yet you post some DSR pictures from an Acer monitor.. why dont you post an actual picture of your FW900 that you run with DVI to BNC cable with AAPG on the screen? (yes this way and not the other way around as in your 1st point.) I bet you never touched an FW900 cos no one even used DVI to BNC back than to connect that monitor to pcs or macs, but what do I know, I didn't use the monitor for video production back than its all fictional.
I also do not need to try anything about DSR cos I am in fact earning my bread with video production and do understand what I am talking about. Yet you still claim DSR actually does output in 4K (or 5K for that matter) which it does NOT. No matter how hard you claim it.. Not to mention AAPG and UE3 does not support SLI and your cards in single mode are not even cabaple of putting 5K image, let alone render it via DSR to downsample down again.
DSR tech renders (in GPU) the image in 4K and down-samples it (again in GPU) before outputting it through connector to the monitors selected resolution, which is bound by its max resolution. Darn you really have no clue what you are talking about mate,
Its not real 4K in pixels. Its just a smoother image on the monitors max resolution if its less than 4K to start with.
Not to mention you wouldn't need DSR at all if your monitor can in fact show 5K resolution as you claim.
Oh and yes we played together on K!Dz server and I kicked you after that flag action when you started blaming the team for being at extraction.. Maybe some memory problems too?
Now before you answer back.. read this part again
DSR tech renders (in GPU) the image in 4K and down-samples it (again in GPU) before outputting it through connector to the monitors selected resolution, which is bound by its max resolution.
And I dont need DSR cos my gaming GPU ( GTX 780ti) can in fact produce 4K but I prefer to play on a 144hz Full HD gaming monitor and I am quite happy with the picture I get.
EDIT: oh before I forget 5k means 5120 x 2880 pixels and not 3840 x 2400 as you claim over and over
You didn't even read my post... you're just mindless rambling again about DSR & resolutions. You need to actually read that LINK to geforce you keep presenting.. are you not embarrassed? your own link describes it, and you have no clue.
It's call reading comprehension actually read my post, not skim it same with your geforce link & video.
Not going to respond anymore you're just :trollface: ing me now.. you didn't even read my post or the information you provided for your case or you wouldn't keep posting nonsense, you did everything I asked you not to do.. saying it over and over... is not going to make you magically right about my set-up.
Re-read Number 4 on what an FW900 can do you might learn something, highlight it, google it.. to learn is to earn a piece of truth.
You seem kinda bitter & lost... hope things get better for you.
I am done talking sense into you.. we all know it never worked..
you keep believing playing the game @ 5K with 3840 x 2400 pixels. good for you..
PS: I wasnt trolling you at all.. but you seem to believe in things that do not exist.
PSS : btw with one picture you can prove me all wrong.. lets wait and see if that thing ever comes
EDIT: your input about no limits on resolution is not correct. It only lifts the limitation on vertical resolution but not on horizontal. Therefore you can not have what you think you have.
I can play at 4K (via DSR) without any issue with my config.
i7 4790K @ 4.4GHz
GTX 970 x 2 @ SLI (you have to use Nvidia Inspector to get SLI working with this game).
12GB RAM
Crucial SSD
Regards,
LookAss
Let me ask something, are you playing on a 4K monitor or full hd monitor?
If you are playing on a full hd monitor, then you are not playing @4K this is a misconception of what DSR does.
What you get is that your GPU renders the image in 4K resolution and down-samples it to full hd.
This way you get a slightly better quality image @1080p then you could have gotten if you rendered directly full hd without going through DSR.
But looks like the marketing department of Nvidia did a great job that so many ppl actually believe they are in fact seing 4K on non 4K monitors..
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You actually don't have a clue what a sony FW900 is., move along.
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actually I owned one.. but obviously you have no idea what 5k means.. and 2304x1440 is far from it
move along
What did you do with yours? did it break? I've got a large collection of parts and 8 fly backs all new if needed. Would also be interested in purchasing it, in the states.
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********Bam4D********BE ALL (THAT) YOU CAN BE!
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DSR only renders the image on higher resolution but down samples it to your monitors max (or lower than max) resolution.
So you are not really playing @ 5K but probably getting a slightly better image quality (not more pixels)
also what GPU are you running to render the game @5K and down-sample again without having fps problems with the not optimized engine like UE3
Go into settings set your DSR 4.x with 0% smoothness, windows settings pick the higher resolution and walla you now have a new super resolution monitor.
FYI Google doesn't replace actual knowledge. Test it yourself.
FYI unreal is more bound to CPU cycles ( my CPU is 5hz ) than GPU.. stick with me Apple you might learn something. :*
_________________________
********Bam4D********BE ALL (THAT) YOU CAN BE!
________Army 1980_________
lol there is a huge difference between forcing a montior to scale up to 5k and actually having a monitor with a 5k resolution. If you are using DSR you don't actually have a 5k monitor then.
#Support Comp Mode
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCN4YhM6jUB2MxVj8i3b9rhw
Sorry dude, but unfortunately you have no idea what DSR does.. at no point of time you have the pixel numbers of 5K shown on your monitor as this is factually not possible.. Maybe you should google yourself a bit more.
While at it, please google for DSR and Downsampling or just click the link below.
http://www.geforce.com/hardware/technology/dsr/technology
Also I did sell my monitor last decade.. and last decade means the years between 2000-2010.. maybe this explains why you are confused about the pixel numbers since you lack the ability to deduct numbers in tens.
Finally 5K over an analog connection (yes that would be the VGA input of FW900) would most likely neutralize the the quality in picture you might get via DSR by down-sampling from 5K.
Also please do elaborate how you get your SLI system to output the SLI rendered video signal through the VGA output of your NVIDIA card?
and back to your question : yes I do own an nvidia card.
Ahh fully understand pixels, screen real estate is part of my profession.. did you try it with your desktop? it's uncanny awesome to have 4 1080 widows running and code window. Give it a try double your desktop... the text is still sharp.
DSR is amazing...
Ahhhmmm Sony FW900 uses BNC connectors.. you did own one? you spent 3,500 Minimum on a monitor in 2005 dollars? don't even know it's primary connection?
Pixels on a CRT do you know how a CRT works? Light beam lines my friend, light beam lines... no cross hatch screen squares like flat panels.. But even on my acer 120hz the 1080 double of pixels still looks beautiful DSR is truly amazing Tech, don't be jelly cause I know how to run it.
All in good fun apple... think your views on marketing are spot on.. I like to volley back and forth and your writing is great.. but wrong on DSR & Sonys
Game on.
_________________________
********Bam4D********BE ALL (THAT) YOU CAN BE!
________Army 1980_________
Let's go over some:
1- FW900 has both VGA and bnc connectors. But the main connector for computer output is and was always VGA as there were no graphics cards with bnc output ever. There were dedicated video cards for digitilizing cam material with bnc though.
2- there is no Nvidia gaming card that supports bnc, bnc is a broadcast norm which is used mostly by professional cameras or studio equipment like video mixers
3- the bnc Sony uses on that monitor is 2 decades old and is streaming video signals over multiple bnc cables, which is not even supported by current generation broadcast equipment
4- crt monitors are also bound by the laws of physics and can only output the resolution they were designed for. you can not have magical new electrons produced from dotpitch, which is responsible for max resolution of the given monitor
5- max resolution of FW900 is 2304 x 1440 which is not 5K and not even 4K
6- dsr only renders higher than max resolution of a monitor but downsamples it. It does not magically output higher resolutions on low resolution monitors.
7- finally if your crt was capable of outputting any resolution, why the [TOS Violation] are you using dsr? You wouldn't need it with any gpu that can output 4K or 5K
You know maybe you should revisit your beliefs and faith because somethings can actually be explained with science and facts. Then individual opinion does not really play a role.
Like in game. When 5 of your team mates are at extraction and all telling you to run the flag from choke, you really do not have to crawl around and peak every corner in lower gallery. Specially not when 10 seconds left on the clock. But I like your enthusiasm
And WIKI or Google is not your friend. Here is the answer to all your bullet points. Number 4 will blow your mind.
1. BNC TO DVI cable
2. See Above
3. Again production run 2003 to 2005 - you never owned one.. or you would be factual with your input. Do you have cable TV? go over to the wall... what a BNC connector coming out... say it isn't so Copper BNC is still the go to product for Video push / pull tech.. wow true 75 Ω performance, BNC Male Connectors are suited for network routing and switching, digital A/V cards, mobile broadcast, broadcast cameras, and studio integration applications.
4. You can set any resolution you want, at any refresh rate, as long as you don't exceed the 400MHZ bandwith limit for the signal on a FW900. Dot pitch measurement does not apply to aperture grille displays. Such monitors use continuous vertical phosphors band on the screen, so the vertical distance between scan lines is limited only by video input signal's vertical resolution. Google that.
5. Again Wiki is not your friend.. If you really paid the 3,500 dollars in 2005 you would have been all over anandtech.com or hardforum.com learning what the SONY beast could do.
6. Again try it for yourself effect is effect.. magic pixel creation is what you brought the table, not me. .. then come pick up your humble pie.
7. Again did you try?.. set DSR to 4.x fire up any game. pick the higher resolution and be amazed.. in AA you may need to console and use command Set RES 3840 x 2160 used my 16:9 to help you out. You seem like a picture book kinda guy.
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Are describing yourself above is this a self confession?
And that last stuff? We have never played together that I've noticed unless you use a different name in game? :grey_question:
Please go into your settings and try before you regurgitate your last few posts with the same limited rhetoric of knowledge, maybe even refine your google search for a rebuttal, upon doing so will bring you wisdom " hint Google this Sony FW900 3840x2400 " go from there.. or visit any number of fan sites.
You have been weighed & measured and found lacking. :pensive:
_________________________
********Bam4D********BE ALL (THAT) YOU CAN BE!
________Army 1980_________
Ohh I see I am the harassing guy when I talk with facts and not like you "magical army way 1980"?
Now you also know if I owned one or not.. yet when I say I sold it last decade it means I sold mine before 2010 (factually in 2008) but I am sure you know better since you are the Sherlock of AA.
Yet you post some DSR pictures from an Acer monitor.. why dont you post an actual picture of your FW900 that you run with DVI to BNC cable with AAPG on the screen? (yes this way and not the other way around as in your 1st point.) I bet you never touched an FW900 cos no one even used DVI to BNC back than to connect that monitor to pcs or macs, but what do I know, I didn't use the monitor for video production back than its all fictional.
I also do not need to try anything about DSR cos I am in fact earning my bread with video production and do understand what I am talking about. Yet you still claim DSR actually does output in 4K (or 5K for that matter) which it does NOT. No matter how hard you claim it.. Not to mention AAPG and UE3 does not support SLI and your cards in single mode are not even cabaple of putting 5K image, let alone render it via DSR to downsample down again.
DSR tech renders (in GPU) the image in 4K and down-samples it (again in GPU) before outputting it through connector to the monitors selected resolution, which is bound by its max resolution. Darn you really have no clue what you are talking about mate,
Its not real 4K in pixels. Its just a smoother image on the monitors max resolution if its less than 4K to start with.
Not to mention you wouldn't need DSR at all if your monitor can in fact show 5K resolution as you claim.
Oh and yes we played together on K!Dz server and I kicked you after that flag action when you started blaming the team for being at extraction.. Maybe some memory problems too?
Now before you answer back.. read this part again
and go and check this link again :
http://www.geforce.com/hardware/technology/dsr/technology
And I dont need DSR cos my gaming GPU ( GTX 780ti) can in fact produce 4K but I prefer to play on a 144hz Full HD gaming monitor and I am quite happy with the picture I get.
EDIT: oh before I forget 5k means 5120 x 2880 pixels and not 3840 x 2400 as you claim over and over
It's call reading comprehension actually read my post, not skim it same with your geforce link & video.
Not going to respond anymore you're just :trollface: ing me now.. you didn't even read my post or the information you provided for your case or you wouldn't keep posting nonsense, you did everything I asked you not to do.. saying it over and over... is not going to make you magically right about my set-up.
Re-read Number 4 on what an FW900 can do you might learn something, highlight it, google it.. to learn is to earn a piece of truth.
You seem kinda bitter & lost... hope things get better for you.
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********Bam4D********BE ALL (THAT) YOU CAN BE!
________Army 1980_________
I am done talking sense into you.. we all know it never worked..
you keep believing playing the game @ 5K with 3840 x 2400 pixels. good for you..
PS: I wasnt trolling you at all.. but you seem to believe in things that do not exist.
PSS : btw with one picture you can prove me all wrong.. lets wait and see if that thing ever comes
EDIT: your input about no limits on resolution is not correct. It only lifts the limitation on vertical resolution but not on horizontal. Therefore you can not have what you think you have.
Its PPS, not PSS.
Please continue. I don't have a dog in the fight, but this is pretty entertaining.
i7 4790K @ 4.4GHz
GTX 970 x 2 @ SLI (you have to use Nvidia Inspector to get SLI working with this game).
12GB RAM
Crucial SSD
Regards,
LookAss
http://archive2.forum.americasarmy.com/viewtopic.php?f=46&t=10445&sid=c713755dc98435ee64ea65a6a268e619
Let me ask something, are you playing on a 4K monitor or full hd monitor?
If you are playing on a full hd monitor, then you are not playing @4K this is a misconception of what DSR does.
What you get is that your GPU renders the image in 4K resolution and down-samples it to full hd.
This way you get a slightly better quality image @1080p then you could have gotten if you rendered directly full hd without going through DSR.
But looks like the marketing department of Nvidia did a great job that so many ppl actually believe they are in fact seing 4K on non 4K monitors..
only the response time is 4ms but I think you can live with that..
sounds really amazing IMO