The Complete Guide to Weapon Mechanics

Saccho · June 2015

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=471503388

It's ... thorough.

If you catch any errors, let me know. A lot of this will need revision with the final release, so some sections go into more depth than others.

.dcG-Colts^ · June 2015

Now to upvote this one and get it to show up instead of the other one. If your ingame and you go to shift tab that other useless guide saying it takes 15-20 shots with m249 to get a kill is the first link you can click on in the bottom right out of the 3 featured.

Frig!d.. · June 2015

Agree, this is really good.
Mine is outdated, time for a new one.

=NOC=BWSNinja · June 2015

Great job on the guide.

m_hermann · June 2015

well done

Bear_82 · June 2015

as always BC, nicely done

[ENG]Uni-Sol · June 2015

Awesome stuff BC

Dem@n · June 2015

liked it.

Saccho · June 2015

Thanks all. I learned a lot going through it all. Some of the tiny details, like faster suppression recovery when near teammates, are easy to miss when learning about the game.

Hopefully it also shows some of the challenge in writing good patch notes. It's easier to say "recoil went up" than "this one term in a big complicated equation was changed, sometimes it'll matter, sometimes it probably won't."

-=}WoLvErInE{=- · June 2015

Nice Work, BC!

iNv|eKComm · June 2015

Put your mouse over opfors head and click Left Mouse button.
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ggs

`xinoN · June 2015

this should be featured on facebook, hint hint

-pR|Arkeiro · June 2015

So much work into this, thx bc.

Yato^ · July 2015

Are you sure bleed damage keeps ticking when you're in the process of bandaging? I've always thought it stops ticking whenever you start to bandage yourself.

Saccho · July 2015

I'll check into it, thanks. I was feeling lazier for some sections and verified less thoroughly than others.

SSKnecabo · July 2015

It doesn't tick while bandaging. You can even start bandaging, move, start bandaging again without loosing health if you time it correctly.

Saccho · July 2015

Yep, updated that section to reflect that, my mistake. I also added some extra detail on bullet penetration calculations. There's some intermediate rounding that happens and I'd missed that before, made me question my sanity for a bit.

(The code's pretty weird right there. A function returns an int but is cast to float. That gets compared against 0.0 and then cast back to int for its last use. Maybe it dodges some bug with shots that would deal damage around 0 or 1 point? If not (and I suspect that's unlikely), it's unnecessary work that would be a 2-second fix for a programmer -- just initialize as an int and remove the casts back and forth. That, or it's a really weird decompiler error. Or that intermediate rounding isn't meant to happen after penetration, but then there are flaws in several pieces of code.)

Are there any remaining surfaces that can only be penetrated by the M14 and M24? I think at one point the metal half-walls like on Three Kings could be, but I think those surfaces were made tougher.

Frig!d.. · July 2015

BCPull wrote: »

Yep, updated that section to reflect that, my mistake. I also added some extra detail on bullet penetration calculations. There's some intermediate rounding that happens and I'd missed that before, made me question my sanity for a bit.

(The code's pretty weird right there. A function returns an int but is cast to float. That gets compared against 0.0 and then cast back to int for its last use. Maybe it dodges some bug with shots that would deal damage around 0 or 1 point? If not (and I suspect that's unlikely), it's unnecessary work that would be a 2-second fix for a programmer -- just initialize as an int and remove the casts back and forth. That, or it's a really weird decompiler error. Or that intermediate rounding isn't meant to happen after penetration, but then there are flaws in several pieces of code.)

Are there any remaining surfaces that can only be penetrated by the M14 and M24? I think at one point the metal half-walls like on Three Kings could be, but I think those surfaces were made tougher.

That sounds very strange, why would they do that? Quite redundant.

SSKnecabo · July 2015

You used to be able to shoot through the desk in West wing and the wooden atrium wall with m24 and m14, not sure if it still works though.

K!Dz.applePIE · July 2015

Necabo wrote: »

You used to be able to shoot through the desk in West wing and the wooden atrium wall with m24 and m14, not sure if it still works though.

west desk was/is a glitch for sure.. cos the desk is the same as in lobby, and you cant shoot through lobby desk (except the small wooden part on top)

Also the Lobby desk wall (towards dark room) is not wood but still m14 and m24 penetrate it easily. I wonder if this was really intended.

SSKnecabo · July 2015

K!Dz.applePIE wrote: »

Necabo wrote: »

You used to be able to shoot through the desk in West wing and the wooden atrium wall with m24 and m14, not sure if it still works though.

west desk was/is a glitch for sure.. cos the desk is the same as in lobby, and you cant shoot through lobby desk (except the small wooden part on top)

Also the Lobby desk wall (towards dark room) is not wood but still m14 and m24 penetrate it easily. I wonder if this was really intended.

I heard the lobby desk wall was fixed as well as the darkroom walls. Never tested it though.

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