Palm trees won't save into map

Keebler750

I don't like the Sandstorm palm trees because of the lighting issue built into them. I DO like the Rusneyev ones though. I tried popping them into my map but now the map won't save.

"Graph is linked to object in external map package."

I mean...it's right there in the editor! Why is this considered external? Is it maybe baked into the Rusneyev map instead of available for use like all the other meshes?

(Beer_me)lobo

devs did somthing with wolvies assets so you cant use them , if you want keebs ive got the same trees ,i can send you them

Keebler750

Is there a reason they didn't want us to use them? I notice Wolvy's file path is still listed...what is "Rising Storm" ?

If they're not protected assets, sure...I'd love 'em!!!

=[101st]=Muzza455

Wolvy does maps with other games too. Check his youtube channel some excellent work there . U can find a few things here
https://free3d.com/
And here
https://yughues.deviantart.com/art/Free-palm-treeZ-v3-292793147

Keebler750

I've opened that second OBJ collection in Blender and can't figure out how to unwrap the mesh in a way the texture will apply properly! How do you apply one frond texture along each leaf element in ANY program???

I think I need to take my unwrapping "skills" to the next level...

=[101st]=Muzza455

I use blender to change files into fbx format then import to udk and import the textures and make mats inhouse and apply to mesh.i also have a file converter for dds texture files now. When making the leaf mat select masked and connect to texture sample .

Keebler750

The file size and mem usage for imported meshes etc....are they still instanced in the map so one mesh used more than once is only loaded once in memory? Or can they be resource hogs?

(Beer_me)lobo

nividia pluggin for photoshop will open dds file, then save as tga , keebs ,its a paid program but look at speed tree , also a lot of vids on texturing models out

Keebler750

DDS file? SpeedTree? I'm not sure what you're talking about, Lobo!

(Beer_me)lobo

dds file are texture s ,like tga aa2 material files are dds
and speed tree , is a program that devs use to make trees

Keebler750

I've never run across a DDS file in my life, so I was like "???"

-=}WoLvErInE{=-

Keebs,

They never split the map into upk files. They are imbedded in the map, so you won't be able to use them without extracting them. If you still need them, let me know and I'll look for them for you.

P.s I might even have some newer once I was working on. I think I have few different variants complete.

Keebler750

Wolvy I don't care 'bout no stinking trees, man. I just want you to come back to us!!!!



I have the ripped assets now thanks to Lobo, but I'm still not sure how the UVs map one leaf texture onto all the leaves,

Is that how you get "Object Has Overlapping UVs" ?

=[101st]=Muzza455

Keebs maybe i am wrong but as i understand it overlapping uv,s is caused by meshes being so close or combined touching or inside one another . And is a part of shadow mapping . The warning is basically telling us that a mesh or multiple meshes are not being lit because they are actually in a shadow .

Keebler750

Nope. I do know that it has to do with island size (or the lack) in the UV map. Just that sometimes you may WANT them overlapped to map the same texture onto multiple features of your mesh.... IE for a car you map one tire texture onto all four tires.

I think I may have answered my own question but the tree asset isn't obvious what's happening since i'm not sure how the UV is packaged.

If "overlapping mesh" was the answer, we'd get a warning for almost everything we do when we build! Lot's of us stack objects!

(Beer_me)lobo

https://forums.unrealengine.com/development-discussion/content-creation/11255-object-has-overlapping-uvs

Keebler750

That link doesn't talk about what an overlapping UV is, Lobo, but instead what happens to baked lightmaps if an object has them.

Keebler750

Oh!!! And this explains why I see some weird shadows sometimes that aren't fixalble with the Lightmap Res! Thanks!!

(Beer_me)lobo

sorry thought you wanted the fix , not sure think its when the lightmap texture is to closely packed