Opt In Update 9/3/2015: Thoughts

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  • iNv|eKCommiNv|eKComm Posts: 394Player
    edited September 2015
    Was in crossfire bomb room behind the box leaning to yellow room. Enemy apparently crouched across the South bridge and shot me in the side. Even tactically crouching I should have heard him from that distance.

    Saved the shadowplay, absolutely no sound from him.

    Same exact situation has happened to me.

    On red stairs on downtown I had a similar situation occur. I'm looking across the top of the bridge to the top of blue stairs. Observing for a moment and relying on my trusty ears to hear a player approaching from behind. I turn around to check my back (not because i heard anything but because i know sound is bad) and there's a guy rounding the corner not making a sound. Its simply bizarre how this could be passed off as acceptable or even realistic because its neither.

    It should be very difficult to be completely silent on wooden surfaces. Bearing in mind that even Tactical isn't the supposed to be 'tiptoeing'. Tiptoeing would need to be much slower.

    In AA2 the complete silence move was slow prone. There was a huge speed to sound tradeoff which made it more difficult to rationalize using but thats how good games are. Complete silence came at a huge price in AA2. In AAPG its cheap. Good games provide trade off for decisions.
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  • 4DChessGenius4DChessGenius Posts: 2,161Player
    edited September 2015
    Agreed, tactical crouch should still make noise, it shouldn't be silent. If you want silence, then crawl. I see way too many guys crouching around the map now because they figure that people won't hear them.

    If you're tactical crouching, I can see it being completely silent if there's stuff going on around the player or even if the player is moving himself. However, if the player being sneaked up on is completely still and there's not much going on around him, there should be no reason why you can't hear him.
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  • Keebler750Keebler750 Posts: 3,621Player
    I bugged something recently regarding sound on those catwalks. Hmm.
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  • ryZen^ryZen^ Posts: 84Player
    Whiplash27 wrote: »
    Agreed, tactical crouch should still make noise, it shouldn't be silent. If you want silence, then crawl. I see way too many guys crouching around the map now because they figure that people won't hear them.

    If you're tactical crouching, I can see it being completely silent if there's stuff going on around the player or even if the player is moving himself. However, if the player being sneaked up on is completely still and there's not much going on around him, there should be no reason why you can't hear him.

  • -PPaaxx--PPaaxx- Posts: 1,576Player
    edited September 2015
    Anybody else get this after a revive on Official US Opt In 01 server?
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  • .6ix.AliGator.6ix.AliGator Posts: 165Player
    -Ner0- wrote: »
    Anybody else get this after a revive on Official US Opt In 01 server?
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    I got that today but I don't remember what server I was in.
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  • 4DChessGenius4DChessGenius Posts: 2,161Player
    -Ner0- wrote: »
    Anybody else get this after a revive on Official US Opt In 01 server?
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    I've gotten that, I've also got one where a grayed out medic cross appears on my screen for the rest of the round.
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  • IO_i_OIIO_i_OI Posts: 1,107Player
    -Ner0- wrote: »
    Anybody else get this after a revive on Official US Opt In 01 server?
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    Yes, I got that after a revive on the same map but on a Private Server. I also lost my crosshairs when it happened. At first I thought I lost connection to the server when everyone stops moving but you. I shot off a few rounds, seen people moving so kept playing. Weird bug, but I guess all bugs are weird.
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  • .6ix.AliGator.6ix.AliGator Posts: 165Player
    I just wanted to add a few comments/questions that I have not seen being brought up:

    1- Is leveling up linear? Is the breakdown on how many points required to level up available somewhere that I can check?

    2- I have not been able to vote for the past two updates. I know voting is still work in progress but I see other people have the ability to vote, but I don't. This might be a problem on my end, does anyone else have this problem?

    3- To simply put it, the scoreboard is ugly. I believe the one we had in open beta looked much more professional. Also, peoples names are getting cutoff if its too long.

    4- Run nade: I thought this was fixed? I still see people doing it.

    5 - Bleeding out bug: After bandaging, i still bleed out. This was a bug present in open beta as well.
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  • .dcG-Colts^.dcG-Colts^ Posts: 1,973Player
    The bleeding out bug was present in open beta...Might of been fixed at some point but was still very rare I assume it's still very rare and if it happens to you frequently try to find the steps to reproduce than you can get it fixed. Same with run nading to fix it they obviously have to see how everyone is doing it.
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  • .6ix.AliGator.6ix.AliGator Posts: 165Player
    The bleeding out bug was present in open beta...Might of been fixed at some point but was still very rare I assume it's still very rare and if it happens to you frequently try to find the steps to reproduce than you can get it fixed. Same with run nading to fix it they obviously have to see how everyone is doing it.

    Yeh the bleeding out bug is extremely rare. For run nade, there are two ways of doing it:

    1- Vaulting over objects while running and pulling out a nade as you are vaulting. Since the movements in the game have been nerfed, it is really hard to do it now (I was able to do it twice after trying like 20-30 times)

    2- Tbh I don't remember the exact key combinations that you have to press in order to do the run nade, I'll figure it out and report it.
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  • 4DChessGenius4DChessGenius Posts: 2,161Player
    edited September 2015
    Was moving at normal speed, guy comes behind me and chokes me... meaning he was sprinting. I heard very faint footsteps at best. Way to go sound.

    On a side note, I was 75% turned and it still let him choke me.


    BTW, I think we should call this game Crouching Army. Since all people do is crouch around the map so no one hears them.
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  • ryZen^ryZen^ Posts: 84Player
    Whiplash27 wrote: »

    BTW, I think we should call this game Crouching Army. Since all people do is crouch around the map so no one hears them.

  • -PPaaxx--PPaaxx- Posts: 1,576Player
    ST-6.CCoR- wrote: »
    Whiplash27 wrote: »

    BTW, I think we should call this game Crouching Army. Since all people do is crouch around the map so no one hears them.

    Funny, just just saw some running.
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  • 4DChessGenius4DChessGenius Posts: 2,161Player
    edited September 2015
    • Crouching is currently OP. Pros: Silent movement, decreased recoil, decreased sway, decreased unsighted spread, smaller target. Cons: Less speed. Increase the noise, it needs it. Personally, I'd even be on board in making a more violent shake of the crosshair when ADS while crouch moving.
    • The red diamond that appears on the radar when you fire is ridiculous. Either a) remove it or b) make it an area dot that gets smaller the more the enemy fires. A single shot pinpointing an enemy's location is garbage.
    • Enemies who are directly behind you make almost no noise. It's been like this since day 1 and it needs to be fixed. A guy can sprint behind you and if you even hear footsteps it sounds like he's far away.
    • Apparently my soldier has super human hearing to pinpoint the exact location of a enemy single shot, but can't hear a guy directly behind him or a guy ninja crouch walking.
    • By the way, have you ever tried crouch walking? It's awkward as crap.
    • Bleed out is an improvement, but the medic system is still a disaster. Game needs a medic class which isn't a VIP (teammates can still heal, just at a penalty) and an active medic system (self-bandage = worst system)
    • Bring back VIP mode for maps like hospital. Heck, give us two flavors while you're at it. Civilian or Soldier. Wounded or Full health. Let the mapper decide.
    • Bring back squads
    • Game needs customizable load outs per map. The mapper decides this obviously. Weapons available, attachments available for each weapon, which grenades available, etc. Each can be decided by class. One size fits all is not the best way to do it.
    • Player tags should just leave the game completely. Do it AAO style where the name pops up if you put the crosshair near them. Other than that, squad #/position (e.g., S1FTL -> Squad 1, Fireteam Leader) on mini-map and full name on full map.
    • Allow us to zoom in and out on the mini-map
    • Please allow us to get rid of the pistol from the scroll wheel when we have two primaries.
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  • Bam4DBam4D Posts: 976Player
    Think we need a section on this forum for I got a Boo Boo and this is too hard. ;)

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  • -PPaaxx--PPaaxx- Posts: 1,576Player
    It seems to be only in Intercept.
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  • 4DChessGenius4DChessGenius Posts: 2,161Player
    -Ner0- wrote: »
    It seems to be only in Intercept.

    Nope, I've gotten it on Inner Hospital and others before.
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  • TheTotsTheTots Posts: 2,278Player
    We're seeing this on any map. The issue is figuring out the repro.

    Whenever this happens make a note of exactly what happened right before.
    Were you in a menu? Were you typing in the chat? Whatever it is, it will help us find the bug!
    The game wasn't made exactly to my specifications, so I feel it's broken.

  • -PPaaxx--PPaaxx- Posts: 1,576Player
    edited September 2015
    We're seeing this on any map. The issue is figuring out the repro.

    Whenever this happens make a note of exactly what happened right before.
    Were you in a menu? Were you typing in the chat? Whatever it is, it will help us find the bug!

    I did nothing special in this video. I pushed the button for my position. My loadout was M249, Sight: Elcan, Secondary: M1911 and Frag and Stun. Still haven't seen it in another map.
    Edit: just had the same in full Hospital. Only difference was I had M14.
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