Shooting through walls
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Lately I seen a lot of players standing face up against walls so the barrel of their gun pops through a mesh/BSP and shooting/prefiring, depending on situations such as enemy spotting, its like a wall hak. I gotta say.. its really awesome to get killed by a gun barrel popping through a wall. (Yes I'm mad bro)
This is surely not intended game design and was just wondering if anything can be done about it? lots of people complain about the bushes, spotting mechanic and things relating to supported firing, but not this? does anyone else feel its an issue?
This is surely not intended game design and was just wondering if anything can be done about it? lots of people complain about the bushes, spotting mechanic and things relating to supported firing, but not this? does anyone else feel its an issue?
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its bad enough seeing people run up and prone into a wall to see through it.. This is a whole different ball game. Not only do you gotta watch for actual players, you gotta watch the walls don't have something popping through them.
You start staring at walls for too long, your going to be getting people thinking your playing with red boxes. You get banned.. you call someone a Badmin for it..
All possible due to that one issue.
To be fair, it’s perfectly acceptable to shot thru thin plywood, plaster or similar penetrable materials. Once you’ve learned a map you can predict where the NME will be and which areas you can hit thru what objects.
I have posted these photos from Opt-In 3 before but as nobody has made a comment on them I’ll repost them here.
Although you might think this player was looking thru the wall in fact from his point of view it looked something like this.
What I don't understand is how people can shoot through a wall when the bullets are not supposed to originate from the barrel that’s sticking through.. but rather from between the players eyes. Yet the bullets fire and can hit you.. even though you can't see a head.
I wish I had some footage of what I mean.
I agree.. That’s a skill or a person knowing what they are doing and playing in the within realms of normality. What I'm talking about is none of those things.. its an exploit.
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Kinda not bulletproof at all in that instance
I've seen people shoot through the glass in up and over without breaking or even cracking the glass, so maybe its possible on the bulletproof stuff.
-"I gotta say.. its really awesome to get killed by a gun barrel popping through a wall."
-"What I don't understand is how people can shoot through a wall when the bullets are not supposed to originate from the barrel that’s sticking through.. but rather from between the players eyes."
Really sounded like you are describing that. Yes, you can shoot body parts sticking through walls, you can't shoot people by sticking your gun through walls though. Since I doubt this can/will be fixed in near future my advise would be to not camp in corners and generally keep a little distance to walls especially when crouched.
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I'll give you 3 examples of where I seen this happen explaining best I can from 'MY' perspective.
1 - I rush to dark with a teamate who runs through Surgery (I take Surgery Hall route).. I throw my nade behind dark and an enemy is in there, I'm not prepped as I just threw a nade.. So I instantly report the guy.. Take a few hits, run away behind the first medical bed.. I observe my teammate who is 'INSIDE' surgery sticking his gun through the surgery wall, killing the guy in Dark room I reported.
2 - Another day, another server.. I go west with a teammate, we run directly to west prefiring my shotgun in west choke, kill a guy who was cooking a frag, report another who is behind the wall leaning out.. I'm backing up and run behind the wall now observing my teammate face up to the wall.. shoot the guy dead.. The guy I just reported.. through the west wall. (it happens so fast text don't explain it well) The shot up guy starts calling hax, and that he got shot by a gun sticking through wall.
3 - My own demise!.. I'm on the medical bed outside dark crouched (surgery side) ADS.. observing right side of dark waiting for a guy who I know is behind the chairs (as I ran from there) to pop his head around, looking for me in dark, I see a gun stick through the dark room wall, from what I can only assume is from behind them chairs.. The thing is firing muzzleflashing on my side of the wall.. shoots me in the head.
I rage quit.. and I NEVER rage quit.
My apologies if I'm being confusing, I kinda hoped more people knew about the issue and caught my drift.
P.S I don't camp, I'm for the most part.. a Shotgun Rambo, who plays entirely too much Inner Hospital
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M14 bullet to the head from a barrel sticking through wall.. No bs. I just have no proof only my word
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I agree this is a big deal that should be looked at.
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Is it possible a head can be slightly through the wall somehow? or there is a certain point in which the bullet fired is fired from the 'outside' of a mesh when on the inside?..I don't know. I might have to go check hospital in the editor and see just how thick them walls are, what damage they allow through and try and find out how this happens myself, I have a feeling its a part clipping part BSP problem.
I have a funky .bat file that launches a client server for testing maps outside of the editor in a proper game environment.. I shall set up some players and see just whats going on and why.. I'll get to the bottom of it!
I'm just about to upgrade my whole rig Keebler, been fetch the stuff this morning.. I'll check when I get her up and running
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Did you enter this into the Bug Portal?
I remember seeing this come through jira. I believe we've addressed most (if not all) of the revive through wall locations, as well as the revive in another place locations.
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Red Line, storage,standing on top the highest box on the other side of the wall to the metal platform where you can jump down from control room.Guess it's more of a game engine problem than wall thickness,as you climb on top of objects or you stand up from prone position facing a wall you can see through it for a short moment.
Also another annoying thing is while getting revived during the revival process you can spectate/ ghost from your corps to tell your reviver if the situation is clear for him to do it or break up the revive process.So starting the revive process and breaking it up midway multiple times gives the dead person the chance to spectate from his view for a limited time.Not sure it works as intended.
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