Posted: 02 Dec 2009 23:47

http://www.theeter.com/america...l-entry

The above link is horrid....

These are not tactics the actual army would do...at all. You would die so fast if you did that in game. Honestly, as the first man approaches the obj, he is running down a street without a buddy, which is a no no. One would never move up a street with multiple ambush points by themselves, they would have someone to bound with. The room was also horrid. This room calls for a four man clear. You could position to on right two on left or all four in one direction. In your example, the two soldiers flooded into the center of the room, this again is a no no. Soldiers should never position themselves in the center of a room because it obstructs fire lanes and allows the enemy an easy grenade kill/SAW kill. As a fireteam stacking up for a four man clear of the room. Position two pulls the bang, and pops it in. Once the flash goes off, position one enters the room and takes the most drastic degree change (not all room clearing styles are the same). Position one does this because the biggest danger to himself and his Fire Team is the fatal funnel (door) and the process by which one travels through it. The only area in which a Fire Team will not be able to pie before clearing happens to be on the most drastic degree changes in relation to the door.

Posted: 03 Dec 2009 00:23

It's a video game not real life.

Posted: 03 Dec 2009 01:17

lol i laugh at that video.
If you would try to flash someone like they did it would never work in AA3, Because they where so close to the Enemy that once they hear the "Grenade" sound they would rush out and assault you before you could throw the Frag or Flash grenade lol!

Posted: 03 Dec 2009 09:09

I laughed. You wouldn't do that even if you weren't trying to be tactical. The 1st man would have been shot in the back by the 3rd enemy that they turn the camera to see at the end right off the bat, as he would have been able to see clearly by the time they turned to him.

He probably would have been dead the second he pulled the combat stance "peak" into the room, completely giving away his position to the enemy and opening him up the fire. And that's not even considering sound.

Posted: 03 Dec 2009 10:12

SDF wrote:

[MOD Edit: TOS Violation] The above link is horrid.... These are not tactics the actual army would do...at all. You would die so fast if you did that in game. Honestly, as the first man approaches the obj, he is running down a street without a buddy, which is a no no. One would never move up a street with multiple ambush points by themselves, they would have someone to bound with. The room was also horrid. This room calls for a four man clear. You could position to on right two on left or all four in one direction. In your example, the two soldiers flooded into the center of the room, this again is a no no. Soldiers should never position themselves in the center of a room because it obstructs fire lanes and allows the enemy an easy grenade kill/SAW kill. In your example, the two soldiers flooded into the center of the room, this again is a no no.

Whoever posts videos like that, I suspect they wouldn't win and receive prizes as offered.

Posted: 03 Dec 2009 10:26

They should make video demonstrations of the official america's army strategy guide by prima.

Posted: 03 Dec 2009 10:43

Lepardi wrote:

They should make video demonstrations of the official america's army strategy guide by prima.

I'm more interested in knowing how/why Prima made a guide for AA.

Posted: 03 Dec 2009 12:50

My clan and I will post a video in this thread showing the propper way of moving and clearing that obj area later this weekend after my exams at OSU are finished. Hooah.

Posted: 03 Dec 2009 12:53

Lilith wrote:

Lepardi wrote: They should make video demonstrations of the official america's army strategy guide by prima. I'm more interested in knowing how/why Prima made a guide for AA.

They have real military experts from the army describing how to clean rooms etc.

Posted: 03 Dec 2009 13:53

Lepardi wrote:

They have real military experts from the army describing how to clean rooms etc.

There's a huge difference in clearing a room in real life and clearing one in a game, you don't need me to tell you what the difference is, I guess that video was just to show us a way of doing it, we all know by playing it that the way in which was shown on the video would have gotten one (if not both) of them killed. It's just a demonstration on Teamwork and how things could/should be done. I look forward to more of these official video's, I think they show us how the makers intended the game to be played, let's face it they aint gonna post a video of one man rushing around killing everyone they come across are they? unfortunately that seems to be the way a lot of AA3 players play the game.

Lilith wrote:

Lepardi wrote: They should make video demonstrations of the official america's army strategy guide by prima. I'm more interested in knowing how/why Prima made a guide for AA.

I think they made one for console version of the game, not PC.

Posted: 03 Dec 2009 14:20

No they made for AA1, even included an installation CD with it.

Posted: 03 Dec 2009 14:28

Gentlemen, may we please try and keep this discussion on topic?

Posted: 03 Dec 2009 15:01

Bozy wrote:

Lepardi wrote: They have real military experts from the army describing how to clean rooms etc. There's a huge difference in clearing a room in real life and clearing one in a game, you don't need me to tell you what the difference is, I guess that video was just to show us a way of doing it, we all know by playing it that the way in which was shown on the video would have gotten one (if not both) of them killed. It's just a demonstration on Teamwork and how things could/should be done. I look forward to more of these official video's, I think they show us how the makers intended the game to be played, let's face it they aint gonna post a video of one man rushing around killing everyone they come across are they? unfortunately that seems to be the way a lot of AA3 players play the game.

Actually, to be technical, he said they knew how to "clean rooms", not "clear rooms".

Bozy wrote:

Lilith wrote: Lepardi wrote: They should make video demonstrations of the official america's army strategy guide by prima. I'm more interested in knowing how/why Prima made a guide for AA. I think they made one for console version of the game, not PC.

I looked. They did both. The PC one was for an older version though. They're behind.

Posted: 03 Dec 2009 20:46

You mean these?

http://yfrog.com/baphotoxtj

Only the X-box and original AA Operations games had a prima guides made for them.Pretty interesting to thumb through.

Posted: 03 Dec 2009 22:59

Back to OP:

Yes, it is an incredibly unrealistic way of clearing a room. As I recall, since theres no door, you stack up on the side of where you came from. 2 man throws flash. As flash goes boom, 1 man and 3 man go in while 2 man sets his sights up. 1 man goes along right wall, looking at left wall, as 3 man goes left wall, watching left. 2 man then comes into nearest corner to door/opening.