Posted: 18 Aug 2008 21:11

I've been looking around the forums at all the Linux and Mac related Post. I see numerous post where the subject is brought up. I also see the moderators locking these threads down, each time politely stating that our user bases are too small. And also each time, becoming more and more irritated at redundancy of the post(which to me would seem like a sign that our numbers are growing). I wish for a chance to prove just how large the Non-Windows Market Share is. So I ask the Moderators for one thread, that would remain open for one week. Where every Linux and Mac user interested in an America's Army 3.0 interested in a native client to make a single post, stating they're claim of interest. Hopefully the moderators could give some number of post required for them to at consider the development of such clients.

If the Moderators Accept, I'll be sure to spread the news of this opportunity to as many of the Linux gaming communities as a possible.

Thank you for the opportunity,
-=Twisted=-Milyardo

Posted: 18 Aug 2008 21:17

Unless the mods are in a very good mood, I doubt this thead will stay open for multiple reasons.
1) This thead is essentially a poll, which is a no no.
2) Linux and Macs have already been discussed numberous times, and there is quite literally, nothing you can do to make the devs delay the release date to make it for Linux and Mac.

Personally I think it would be great if they made it for Linux and Mac. More players for me to shoot down But frankly it just won't happen. At least not for the 3.0 release.

Posted: 18 Aug 2008 21:31

A GW fan that is a Linux/Mac supporter...Oh my God I'm not alone in the world. Sadly though, unless someone comes along that can spare the time to develop for Mac and Linux systems, it most likely won't happen.

Posted: 18 Aug 2008 21:56

W@@dy wrote:

Unless the mods are in a very good mood, I doubt this thead will stay open for multiple reasons. 1) This thead is essentially a poll, which is a no no.

It may be considered a poll, but I would like it to be thought of as an opportunity for all of those discouraged Linux and Mac gamers to make their existence known as the current environment on this forum for us is not the most friendly.

W@@dy wrote:

2) Linux and Macs have already been discussed numberous times, and there is quite literally, nothing you can do to make the devs delay the release date to make it for Linux and Mac. Personally I think it would be great if they made it for Linux and Mac. More players for me to shoot down But frankly it just won't happen. At least not for the 3.0 release.

I would never ask for that, I asked for them to reconsider the development. Windows development could continue unhindered by the progress of Linux and Mac ports, even if they do fall a couple of versions behind. Linux and Mac gamers cannot compare to the number of Windows gamers yet. However we aren't the insignificant niche that we were even a year ago.

Posted: 18 Aug 2008 23:00

You're still a tiny niche that would cost too much to develop for while the Army gets almost none of you as recruits.

Posted: 18 Aug 2008 23:48

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You're still a tiny niche that would cost too much to develop for while the Army gets almost none of you as recruits.

I said we were no longer insignificant.
For example, I am a 19 year old Computer Science Major.
Now granted, there aren't alot of 19 year old computer science majors, but think about this.

1. How many 19 year old Computer Science Majors use Linux?
2. How many of those Computer Science Majors play Video Games?

Now when I graduate in 3 years, and I have a choice between getting a job at Google, or with the US Army, I will remember the Google Summer of Code Project, and America's Army. I'm much less likely to choose the Army because I'll remember how I didn't matter to the US Army only 3 years ago.

The Army recruits more than grunts to be front line bullet magnets, they also need Programmers, Engineers and other college graduates(All who use Linux in some shape or form) to support the $500 billion dollar defense industry.

Posted: 18 Aug 2008 23:54

Wait. So your actually considering risking you life over working at Google??? TAKE GOOGLE YOU MORON!!!
Working at Google is everyones dream job. You can take your pets into work, they have doctors on site, you can do whatever there, work as late as you want. Hell you can even live there I think.
Screw the Army and take Google lol.
God...I don't even see how the Army could compare too Google (no offense vets)...Google is like...It's like a little chunk of Heaven on Earth...

Posted: 18 Aug 2008 23:59

Personally, I'd take the Army.

Posted: 19 Aug 2008 00:00

First of all. who said that you don't matter to the US Army? Your choice of OS is hardly a reason for the Army not to care about you. Shall I assume that since the Army is unwilling to invest the time and money on converting SAWs and M240Bs into right hand feed weapons that the Army does not care about left-handed gunners?

You might want to check your attitude of "front line bullet magnets". It shows an incredible lack of understanding of what we really do. Remember too, that if you join the Army, you are a Soldier first and everything else second. The days of the front line are most likely behind us. So, the computer wienies being miles behind the line is no longer a reality. You probably won't be kicking in doors, but there are some very interesting stories behind the Combat Action Badges being worn by a great many "soft skills" MOS'.

Where did you get the idea that you would be supporting defense industry? It's the other way around.

I think the Army has a pretty good idea of what they were doing in deciding not to support a MAC or Linux build for 3.0. And, while I applaud your leaning forward on this, a few posts that devolve into a flamefest between MAC and Linux fanbois and everyone else is not going to move your agenda forward.

I'm going to leave this open, but past experience leads me to believe it will not last long.

Posted: 19 Aug 2008 00:02

Google is like the best job you could ever imagine. They interviewed people there. No dress code, wear PJ's to work. Bring in your dogs. Chiropractors. Dentists. Giant Messhall (like the malls). Nap time. Do whatever the hell you like days too.
Of course the job is demanding, but you get paid big time and work very VERY comfortably.

Posted: 19 Aug 2008 00:04

W@@dy wrote:

Google is like the best job you could ever imagine. They interviewed people there. No dress code, wear PJ's to work. Bring in your dogs. Chiropractors. Dentists. Giant Messhall (like the malls). Nap time. Do whatever the hell you like days too. Of course the job is demanding, but you get paid big time and work very VERY comfortably.

I'm not saying it's not a good job. I'm more than aware of how amazing the tech sector can be. However, if I was presented a choice between the two - I would take the Army every time. No hesitation, no regret.

However, this is not on topic, so let's get back to the discussion at hand.

Posted: 19 Aug 2008 00:14

longjon76 wrote:

You might want to check your attitude of "front line bullet magnets". It shows an incredible lack of understanding of what we really do. Remember too, that if you join the Army, you are a Soldier first and everything else second. The days of the front line are most likely behind us. So, the computer wienies being miles behind the line is no longer a reality. You probably won't be kicking in doors, but there are some very interesting stories behind the Combat Action Badges being worn by a great many "soft skills" MOS'.

I actually meant to imply that those days of front line combat are gone, sorry if I wasn't clear enough.

Posted: 19 Aug 2008 02:19

I hate to say it, but if the deciding factor on whether or not you're going to join the Army is if they made a game for your OS or not, the Army probably wouldn't be best for you anyways.

Posted: 19 Aug 2008 02:43

As I have said before (I have used both MACs & PCs from '98 models to the present) All MACs that meet the sys reqs for 3.0 are PCs. They may be faster, or cooler, or better, but if you ask the average Windows XP or Vista install disc, they can't tell the difference. Since running Windows on Intel MACs has become incredibly popular, the DEVs probably don't consider it worth their while to port the source code.

Posted: 19 Aug 2008 09:19

[MIA]KCToker wrote:

I hate to say it, but if the deciding factor on whether or not you're going to join the Army is if they made a game for your OS or not, the Army probably wouldn't be best for you anyways.

Its not about the OS, The GSoC Project is an experience I will remember after I graduate. America's Army will not be.